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Message 65042 - Posted: 4 Feb 2022, 15:18:20 UTC

For the last couple of months my PC isn't getting any work anymore.

One reason seemed to be that BOINC Manager needs to be updated to 7.16.20 when using a VM.
But even after upgrading to the latest release things are more or less the same.

At least I get the feedback that the project requested delay, which I didn't get before.

Project pages however show that almost 2500 tasks are ready to be sent.
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Message 65043 - Posted: 4 Feb 2022, 15:38:50 UTC - in response to Message 65042.  
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For the last couple of months my PC isn't getting any work anymore.

One reason seemed to be that BOINC Manager needs to be updated to 7.16.20 when using a VM.
But even after upgrading to the latest release things are more or less the same.

At least I get the feedback that the project requested delay, which I didn't get before.

Project pages however show that almost 2500 tasks are ready to be sent.


What hardware?

What operating system?

Please list the first 50 or so lines of the event log after a reboot.

BTW, if you are only connected to CPDN then be aware that there are no windows tasks and that tasks for Linux have also run out recently, the 2500 are new and it might take your machine a couple of days to spark into life.

If it’s any consolation, my pc was out of CPDN work and tried to download some half an hour ago - it also pulled 0 tasks.
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Message 65044 - Posted: 4 Feb 2022, 15:53:07 UTC - in response to Message 65043.  

Windows 10/64, CDPN

2022-02-04 09:02:32 | | cc_config.xml not found - using defaults
2022-02-04 09:02:32 | | Starting BOINC client version 7.16.20 for windows_x86_64
2022-02-04 09:02:32 | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
2022-02-04 09:02:32 | | Libraries: libcurl/7.47.1 OpenSSL/1.0.2s zlib/1.2.8
2022-02-04 09:02:32 | | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
2022-02-04 09:02:32 | | Running under account andreas
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: Quadro P400 (driver version 472.47, CUDA version 11.4, compute capability 6.1, 2048MB, 1664MB available, 641 GFLOPS peak)
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: Quadro P400 (driver version 472.47, device version OpenCL 3.0 CUDA, 2048MB, 1664MB available, 641 GFLOPS peak)
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | Windows processor group 0: 12 processors
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | Host name: OBELIX-2018-11
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | Processor: 12 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz [Family 6 Model 158 Stepping 10]
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movebe popcnt aes f16c rdrandsyscall nx lm avx avx2 vmx smx tm2 pbe fsgsbase bmi1 hle smep bmi2
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | OS: Microsoft Windows 10: Professional x64 Edition, (10.00.19043.00)
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | Memory: 31.82 GB physical, 36.57 GB virtual
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | Disk: 952.72 GB total, 506.83 GB free
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | Local time is UTC +1 hours
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | No WSL found.
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | VirtualBox version: 6.0.14
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | climateprediction.net | General prefs: from climateprediction.net (last modified 04-Oct-2008 08:51:44)
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | climateprediction.net | Computer location: work
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | climateprediction.net | General prefs: no separate prefs for work; using your defaults
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | Reading preferences override file
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | Preferences:
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | max memory usage when active: 16290.07 MB
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | max memory usage when idle: 29322.13 MB
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | max disk usage: 285.82 GB
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | max CPUs used: 3
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | don't use GPU while active
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 15%
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | Setting up project and slot directories
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | Checking active tasks
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | climateprediction.net | URL https://climateprediction.net/; Computer ID 1472063; resource share 100
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | Setting up GUI RPC socket
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | Checking presence of 9 project files
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | | Suspending GPU computation - computer is in use
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | climateprediction.net | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
2022-02-04 09:02:33 | climateprediction.net | Requesting new tasks for CPU
2022-02-04 09:02:35 | climateprediction.net | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2022-02-04 09:02:35 | climateprediction.net | Project has no tasks available
2022-02-04 09:02:35 | climateprediction.net | Project requested delay of 3636 seconds
2022-02-04 09:02:43 | | Suspending computation - CPU is busy
2022-02-04 09:03:23 | | Resuming computation
2022-02-04 09:03:33 | | Suspending computation - CPU is busy
2022-02-04 09:03:43 | | Resuming computation
2022-02-04 09:04:03 | | Suspending computation - CPU is busy
2022-02-04 09:04:34 | | Resuming computation
2022-02-04 09:13:53 | | Resuming GPU computation
2022-02-04 09:14:13 | | Suspending GPU computation - computer is in use
2022-02-04 09:19:15 | | Resuming GPU computation
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Message 65045 - Posted: 4 Feb 2022, 15:53:20 UTC - in response to Message 65042.  

Hi, just looked at a notice board the mods and testers can see and got this.

Ok as the majority of fails for this batch were on Linux, I have deprecated so it only runs on Mac and resending (should be batch 927)


So that is why you didn't get any. You will likely have to wait for the next HADAM4 batch now.
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Message 65047 - Posted: 4 Feb 2022, 16:00:23 UTC - in response to Message 65045.  

Thanks a lot!
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Message 65050 - Posted: 4 Feb 2022, 19:32:03 UTC - in response to Message 65047.  

Thanks a lot!


The other thing I’d add is that I’d change the 15% in :-

suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 15%

to something more like 75% as your processing will be cutting in and out like a fiddler’s elbow as Windows does it’s “background” maintenance.
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Message 65055 - Posted: 4 Feb 2022, 23:01:04 UTC - in response to Message 65045.  

Ok as the majority of fails for this batch were on Linux, I have deprecated so it only runs on Mac and resending (should be batch 927)


I am not arguing with this, but was it justified? Since I do not know the numbers, I will make them up.

Say 60% of the boinc clients run Windows, 35% run Linux, and 5% run on MACs.
then if 35 Linux users fail and 5 MAC users fail, they have an equal failure rate and it would be unfair to refuse work units to the Linux community. If 100% of the Linux machines or 100% of the Intel machines failed, then cuting those machines off would clearly be the thing to do.

Does anyone have the correct numbers to replace those I made up? I ask because I have had all mine (on Linux with an Intel Xeon processor) fail except one. Since that one succeeded, and the two other machines that tried it first failed (and they ran on Macs), I infer that it may not be the fault of the operating system or the processor type. One of the two that failed the one that worked for me even produced three trickles.
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Message 65057 - Posted: 4 Feb 2022, 23:47:24 UTC - in response to Message 65055.  

It's up to the project people what OSs tasks run on, based on results returned to them.
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Message 65060 - Posted: 5 Feb 2022, 10:37:53 UTC

I am not arguing with this, but was it justified?


I have also posted in new work discussion in number crunching,

70% failure rate,20% success and the rest in progress Linux.

75%success, 20% failure and the rest in progress on Macs.

So I think it is justified though given that a lot of the failures on Linux are missing libraries they are really user problems rather than Linux ones a concerted effort to get rid of the computers with missing libraries would be a better approach.
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Message 65241 - Posted: 8 Mar 2022, 8:20:15 UTC - in response to Message 65045.  

We now have passed one month since the last post, and apparently there is still no work for Windows PC's.

Looks like the program is dead, at least for the majority of users out there.

That's a pity, as I was running climateprediction calculations for around 2 decadeds (!) now.
Boinc and climateprediction is installed on all of our office PC's, and we are #2 in Norway, and #139 worldwide.
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Message 65242 - Posted: 8 Mar 2022, 9:12:37 UTC - in response to Message 65241.  

You could try the VirtualBox solution in this thread, and run the Mac models while they last:
macOS Mojave installation on Windows 10 with VirtualBox

Otherwise, it could be a long wait. :(
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Message 65244 - Posted: 8 Mar 2022, 11:52:36 UTC - in response to Message 65241.  

We now have passed one month since the last post, and apparently there is still no work for Windows PC's.
That's a pity, as I was running climateprediction calculations for around 2 decadeds (!) now.
Boinc and climateprediction is installed on all of our office PC's, and we are #2 in Norway, and #139 worldwide.
If you are familiar with setting up VMs, installing macOS Mojave from the link that Les posted is straightforward. The only issue I've found is that the instructions do not mention screen resolution, which defaults to 1024x768. The VB management command for e.g 1920x1080 is:
VBoxManage setextradata “macname” VBoxInternal2/EfiGraphicsResolution 1920x1080
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Message 65388 - Posted: 2 May 2022, 8:48:49 UTC - in response to Message 65244.  

So the project is now more or less officially dead for Windows clients?
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Message 65389 - Posted: 2 May 2022, 13:05:25 UTC - in response to Message 65388.  

Yes.
Unless you run a VM, with Linux inside.
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Message 65394 - Posted: 3 May 2022, 16:29:09 UTC - in response to Message 65388.  

So the project is now more or less officially dead for Windows clients?
The only current option for Windoze users is to run a Virtual Machine. This Windoze PC runs VirtualBox with two VMs - Linux (ubuntu) and Mac (Mohave).
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